Kumo desu ga, Nani ka? The Second Informal Conference ①

Let’s have some tea and cookies while chatting about the war…

The Second Informal Conference ①


Author’s note: The pope’s point of view.


「Hiya.」

My hopes were undermined right from the very start. Grandly so.

To the person who casually greeted me with a hand raised, I could only bow my head. I cannot allow my current expression to be seen. Even if it means that my subordinates see me bowing my head to the leader of the demons. Surely that is somewhat preferable to me showing them the expression of terror that appeared on my face, even if fleetingly.

「It has been a long time. Or maybe, how do you do, would be better perhaps.」

I smoothed over my expression, and gave that greeting in return after raising my head. The monster in the form of a girl in front of me, displayed an identical smile to the one she started with. Did she notice my terror perhaps, or maybe she noticed but is pretending not to perhaps? I fear it is the latter.

「It’s the same either way, right? For now, let’s get cracking.」

Compared to my recollection of her she is considerably more carefree, leaving me feeling lost. Beneath the smile pasted onto her face in the past, an unconcealable rage was burning. But, what I can feel from this person now, is a rather mellow emotion. Even still, that’s only on the surface, and in her innermost heart she should still be boiling with hatred towards this world. After having lived for so long, it is probably a trivial matter for her speech and behaviour to have changed. At any rate, unlike myself, this person has been continuously alive without dying since before the System was put into operation after all – the oldest Divine Beast.

The oldest Divine Beast, the origin of spiders, Ariel-sama. Having lived since the time before the System was put into operation, the strongest existence within this world with the exception of the Administrators. After she had taken no major actions for a long time, I had never expected her to become the Demon King of all things.

I feel such a fool. If I had only thought about it briefly I should have seen that this person has a connection to Shiro-sama, the Nightmare of the Labyrinth. Until this instant I had completely failed to perceive this.

Perhaps that is because I had perceived there to be hostility between the Nightmare of the Labyrinth and Ariel-sama. The last actions taken by Ariel-sama, that we have been able to verify, was an attack on a nest built by the Nightmare of the Labyrinth near the main town of the Keren territory in the country of Sariera. Thence, we can only presume that for some reason she was hostile towards the Nightmare of the Labyrinth who should have been a relative as a spider monster, but that is the last actions taken by Ariel-sama that we know of. After that, being unaware of any actions taken by Ariel-sama, we were under the impression that she had once again left the historical stage. I can only curse my own foolishness. The time when Ariel-sama had hidden herself, and the time when the Nightmare of the Labyrinth vanished are not quite the same, but they are close. During that time, it would not be strange for the two of them to have reconciled their hostility.

Thinking about it there are many points that are consistent with this. The relationship between the Nightmare of the Labyrinth and Ariel-sama. The new Demon King who completely reversed the previous generation’s policy and pressed for military expansion. And most of all, the existence of someone significant enough for Black Dragon-sama to warn that she was “merciless”. Line up all the points, and they become a line. It’s as if what I couldn’t see, suddenly came into view.

「Yahoo? How about coming back to the present?」

Ariel-sama claps her hands together while calling out to me. In real time the time I spent thinking should have been short, but it is likely that Ariel-sama realised that I had gotten lost in deep thought.

「Excuse me. This bad habit of mine is something I have not been able to cure no matter how many times I reincarnate.」
「I’d say that over-thinking things is bad. Why not empty your head a bit and take it easy?」
「I wish I could do such a thing.」

I sit down facing Ariel-sama who is resting her chin on one hand on the desk. While there were some who frowned at Ariel-sama’s rudeness, nobody said anything, probably due to the effect of me bowing my head at the start. At the previous conference with Shiro-sama, I am sure that the others also understood just who was in the superior position. That Shiro-sama takes a seat besides Ariel-sama. By yielding the central seat to Ariel-sama, she probably intends for Ariel-sama to be the focus of the conference this time around.

「Then, let’s get going. Though saying that, I haven’t heard what’s going to be discussed today. Is it really the case that there’s mutual agreement on the main point of jointly bringing down the elves?」

Ariel-sama asks that while alternatively looking between Shiro-sama and myself. When Shiro-sama silently nods in assent, I followed that in assenting.

「That is indeed the case. To bring down the elves is one of my dearest wishes. If it is for making it possible to achieve that, then I am glad to cooperate.」

To be able to bring down the elves, or rather, their ringleader Potimas, could be said to be for the sake of the world as well. If it is for the sake of being able to kill him, then joining hands with the demons who should be our proper enemies is no hardship at all.

「Good, good. Then, let’s go with that in regards to the elves. To put it bluntly, our preparations aren’t ready yet anyway. We’ll mobilise as soon as the situation allows, pretty much I guess. Is that okay?」
「Yes.」

Even if we were told to immediately take action we wouldn’t be able to move that quickly. Ariel-sama’s proposal is a godsend.

「Okay, next. So, this time the demons will be waging a large scale war, but how does the Divine Word Religion intend to act with regards to that?」

While disclosing the future actions of the demons as if lightly gossiping, Ariel-sama asks about our actions.

「I regret to say this, but that is beyond the scope of our agreement. We have no reason to disclose that.」

It must be remembered that our cooperation is only in regards to bringing down the elves. How the demons intend to attack is beyond the scope of that. As such, I cannot just simply hand over our information. I am sure that they understand that as well. At any rate, that should be why Shiro-sama had previously informed us about the future movements of the demons at least. In doing so, perhaps by causing the human side to also prepare for war, I can see her scheme to increase the number of casualties on both sides. In that case, she should also want the humans to seriously desire for war. Even if we refuse to disclose information, that also has the effect of declaring the intent of the Divine Word Religion to face this battle with all our might, which should be in accordance with Ariel-sama and co. It would not lead to the agreement being broken.

「Fine then.」

As I expected, Ariel-sama readily nods in agreement without any indication that her mood was harmed.

「Hrm. Well, yeah, I guess we wouldn’t be able to disclose such information either. I’ll tell you this just in case though – that neither Shiro-chan or I are intending to personally get involved in the battles, so don’t worry. We’ll only push the course of action down the route of demons and humans killing each other. If you lot are saying you want to preserve your war potential as much as possible then we won’t force you to participate. Though that does mean that the damage to the humans will likely be greater.」

While saying that she wouldn’t disclose information, Ariel-sama tells us something valuable. That Ariel-sama and Shiro-sama won’t participate directly is significant information. If those two participated in the war, the humans would inevitably be crushed. However, so long as that’s not the case, the war is worthwhile.

「Ahh, excuse me a minute? For that war, I intend to participate on the demon side, so best regards in future.」

However, as if to dash my hopes, Wrath-dono makes that statement.


 

Translation notes:

With regards to Ariel being called “merciless” by Kuro, see the chapter translated by turb0 called “The Pope and the Administrator”.

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JustALegend
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Woo new one 😀 tyvm

kirindas
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Thanks for the new chapter!

Anto
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Wrarh makes his move, the wheel is turning quite nicely here.
Thank you for the chapter.

Past One/Hikari to Kage
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Past One/Hikari to Kage

Thanks

xacual
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Oh, so Wrath finally decided on taking part in the War. Does this mean he’s truly finally accepting that he’s no longer human and that he’s willing to kill even out of Wrath mode?

Sancturil
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Thanks a lot for the chapter.^^ I’m looking forward to what’s coming next in the conference when it comes to the subject of Wrath becoming a commander of the demon army in the war.

Xvynquw
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Woo, another chapter! Thanks!

KuRuuRuu
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Thanks for the chapter!! (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤

「I’d say that over-thinking things is bad. Why not empty your head a bit and take it easy?」
LOL Ariel, did you say that based on your own experience? (ノ>▽<。)ノ

Sodemas
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Nai wa~ it’s been a while guys ^^

IcyClaw
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nai wa~

Carmichael
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Hum, so Ariel says that neither she nor Shiro will intervene in the war yet we know that Shiro will one-shot Julius, so the question is why? Was it Shiro’s intent all along (it wouldn’t surprise me with the importance of the Hero’s death to the process) or was it that Julius was so bad-ass that he forced Shiro’s hand?

laclongquan
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Her major objectives, other than causing great damage, is to deal with the troublesome Hero tittle holder. Demon King tittle holders are fated to die by Heroes, and both Shiro and Ariel got DK tittles.
I am actually still thinking Julius is not dead, just dealt with. It is the hidden ship author prepare, I suspect~

xacual
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Shiro doesn’t have titles anymore you know.

Nanashi
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I´m just rereading and somewhere around Kumo-Chapter 238 it´s said that the Hero is a burden on the system specifically because everyone he beats in a fight gets a Demon King title for free which wastes energy from the system (was explained as some kind of loan: Demon King title -> more power -> more lvl/skills -> more power getting back into the system after title holder dies).
This also works from the side of the Demon King, but since Ariel doesn´t fight, it´s not a problem.

Mayonai
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No, those defeated get a ‘Subjugated by the Hero’ title, which in itself doesn’t waste energy, as all skills and titles given are returned back to the system upon death, as a sort of loan. But with Shiro, who is outside of the system, the energy is wasted trying to apply a title from the system on her, and it simply dissipates into nothingness. That said, this ‘bug’ in the system isn’t the reason Shiro ultimately wants to get rid of the Hero. The Hero aspect of the system takes up a whole 3% of the world’s total energy supply,… Read more »
Mayonai
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Also, contrary to what people say about why Shiro let Julius live so long, she probably simply didn’t know any of this until she became a god, then waited to kill the hero until she was confident Kuro wouldn’t interfere. The power of Julius’s soul had nothing to do with it, as the heroes themselves aren’t actually the cause of the wasted energy, and no matter how powerful they got, it wouldn’t really add anything substantial to the system energywise, as far as we are led to believe. Rather, the Hero System itself wastes much of the systems energy, for… Read more »
dandy big
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The reason is simple, Julius is her prey from about 10 years ago

Metazoxan
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Well most likely because the hero title is in the way. It was suggested the hero foolishly views Shiro as his enemy and actively hunts down her clones. Which causes a constant drain on the world because of a bug that keeps trying to give her a title for being subdued by the hero. So not only is he getting in the way of her information network he’s also making the problem worse. There is also the issue with the demon king and while the hero is FAR from being at a level to where he could take her he’s… Read more »
Carmichael
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Ah yeah i forgot that he chased down her clones!

And it’s true that he is far to their level but I think I remember Ariel or Shiro saying that killing the Hero would have an impact of about 3% on the system, as much as an army if I’m not mistaken. That was why she didn’t kill him the first time, she waited for him to grow his power to have a bigger impact later.

jeg
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This one is actually the most accurate answer. She let him survive so that his soul could grow and be fed to the system. Now, why kill him perennially? She no longer belongs to the system. In other words, the system will not give exp skill or title to her. In short, no waste of energy for the system.

Boo
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I believe Kumo is a light novel that truly encompasses the age old saying “The path to hell is paved with good intentions”

SubZole
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Nah, the hero was a really good guy. Its a shame that he had to die but it was inevitable. He had no idea that he might cause harm to the world.
Back then the hero was still only a child but he still had enough courage/determination to attack Shiro even after he saw her strength.

Metazoxan
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Didn’t say he wasn’t a good guy. But he’s incompetent as far a truly protecting the world is concerned and is just as guilty as the rest of the humans and demons for slowly eating away at the world.

Remember Potimas took out a chunk with his god killing scheme but the world was still going down hill before that. It’s just they had a lot more time to fix it before potimas ruined everything.

Anonymous
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good question, maybe we’ll find out

sweetovski
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Every person that is killed by the hero gets a hidden title ‘killed by the hero’ or something. That costs system energy and the only thing to prevent that is to hack the system and create a new hero without that feature. The same she did already with the rulers.

Mana
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What!? Pope can reincarnate!. Do previous chapters provide any hints?

Carmichael
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When he present himself in the First Conference he says something like he is the 57th Pope but is named Dustin the 63rd. It is then explained that he meant he was on his 63rd reincarnation, and that was a covered way to show his knowledge of the world and system, a bit like when Shun says Yoroshiku to Katia.

ModoTheGreat
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The world Dustin lives in is governed by a [System] that recycles souls through an endless cycle of reincarnation. Presumably the Ruler of Temperance can access memories of his/her previous incarnations in the world. And good Dustin’s soul always walks the path of earning that Ruler skill each time he reincarnates, it appears.

NP-3228
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Ogre, wraith-kun’s sentence just casually dooms the human race.

goo21
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He isn’t ogre, he is oni

jeg
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oni is the japanese word for demon, daemon and ogre depending on how the word is used. you can check google translate if you’d like.

chaoton
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Well, you can say that Chinese dragon and European dragon are both translated as dragon but two are not the same and that won’t simply justify that.

Mashiro
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I been looking forward to this conference! I can imagine the tension in the air for the human side. I would love to see this part in the manga, Dustin and the others on one side sweating profusely. Felmina-chan wishing she wasn’t there, Shiro, Ariel and Wrath are unphased while Sophia glares across the table begrudgingly. But the manga will take forever to get there…. There needs to be more fan art! Though… I would like some of Shiro to be abit more accurate though, I mean fan art is great to see the same character in various ways, and… Read more »
Radhel
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Well sir… flatness is justice too.

LustyMuse
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“Slender under clothing type” is a Japanese saying for large breasts. Kusama also said that she had a great figure.

As for why she wanted to rip off the succubi’s breasts is because it’s a stereotype that women in Japan have a breast complex and succubi beasts are normally beyond the realm of I – cup.

Mashiro
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Even if its a Japanese saying, they aren’t in Japan, even if they share some cultural things, the prostrating for example. He still could have been meant literally or just they were bigger then he thought which he could of only expected her to be flat rather then a A/B. Either way still Hiiro the “template” is/was certainly not big in that area being Japanese, Using the manga’s images for reference certainly indicates that. Remember, Large breasts are filled with dreams, but small ones are filled with hope. :3

dadadadadadeasde
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thank you so much

Aria
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I wonder if Shiro is thinking somewhere along the line of [so this NEET can be useful] and/or [I’m glad I didn’t have to talk] xD

Thank you for the translations 😀 !

Schattenbach
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Demon King = Extroverted HikiNeet Sportsgirl version of Shiro.

libraryrocker
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Ahahahaha! I laughed!! gj Wrath!! XD

Thanks so much for all your hard work!!!!

Random Internet User (tm)
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Random Internet User (tm)

The elves must be defeated, for they are tasty!

Thank you kindly for all the hard work.

NZPIEFACE
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「Ahh, excuse me a minute? For that war, I intend to participate on the demon side, so best regards in future.」

Sevens….. He’s like the goddamned Third.

Oak
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Thanks for the chapter,
Poor Pope, he doesn’t realise that “Ariel-sama” has a pit in her head now

AnimeLover
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I hope Wrath and Sophia don’t betray Shiro but are loyal…

Setsuyume Edenfault
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YES! Thank you! So the pope is a reincarnator from that world alone, huh?

Schattenbach
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Well … the souls are usually recyceled within that world itself (at least since that system is in place), so that’s not particulary surprising.

GonZ555
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Meatbun delivery~
Thank you for the chapter ( ●w●)

Wrath either said that as an attendance report and a bit of revenge i think..

Magnolia
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Kill the old hero, create the new hero, a fake hero and a saint , chase hero toward elf territory, does she planning to end everything in elf village battle ? Destroy the elf and Potimas, capture the remaining Rulers, destroy the machine and the robot and kill more soul, all in one sweep…

ModoTheGreat
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Just when you think Humanity won’t be getting wiped one sidedly because the Great Monsters are sitting the war out… “Oh by the way this guy with maxed stats will be fighting on our side.” Yay.

Did Oni-kun and Vampire-chan unloxk soul immunity yet, I wonder?

SubZole
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Thanks for the chapter 🙂

nothing
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“After having lived for so long, it is probably a trivial matter for her speech and behaviour to have changed”
No, it is not a trivial matter. You should congratulate her on becoming a pitful Demon King

Kvetha
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Thank you very much for the chapter!

Gippett0
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Thank you for the chapter and all the hard work!

deadtoxic
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Thanks for the Chapter 🙂

Maou: Shiro-chan and I wont be fighting in the war!
Pope: *in his mind* ☺
Wrath: Ummm… I’ll be participating tho…
Pope: *in his mind* ◙♂♀♠9◘•♣♦#$%*#!

Magnolia
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Shiro: I will still come and instant kill Hero…

nothing
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Shiro: I wont fight. Just open my eyes to greet the Hero and I will leave right away. Ah, I wil also let my little spider play a little there

Magnolia
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not her little spider … it was her mother lol

Anonymous
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Not too sure what it is now but you could technically say that Shiro is her own mother (with the rebirth)

deadtoxic
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Shiro: *in her mind* Words? Too tiring to speak!
Battle? Too tiring to move my body around!
Might as well just open my eyes once and go off

carmeops
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well, the hero/demon lord duo is an ‘addon’ to the primary system, it add extra burden, like a soul energy leakage, each time either of them kill something.

so if the purpose of the war is to increase the amount of deaths to rise up the soul energy level of the planet, they can’t let the hero run amok during the war and leak all that preciously collected soul energy

thus, they had to personally act on this one, preferably by someone outside the system so they can’t get affected by the addon and contribute to the leak, so Shiro vaporized him

haazhell
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thanks for the chapter

7bulls
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Is the author back in hiatus ?

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